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Post by frmr cadet on Feb 26, 2004 10:26:50 GMT -5
I think Guy is right. They didn't cover up the death. They were just able to help the cadet avoid criminal prosecution which sort of became the mandate of Skull and Swords.
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Post by XXX on Feb 29, 2004 19:53:23 GMT -5
Apperently what ever the secret is, Skull and Swords members are perpared to die with it. I actually spent quite a bit of time with an S&S Member who lived the Mayo Clinic (Life can run full circle in strange ways. Go college, live a long life and end up in an old age home acrossed the street from a place you spent your green years) But I digress, he was in his 90's at the time that he and I became good friends. I'm sure he has past on now but even in his old age he would devulge little to no infermation on 572. All I can Imagine is that either the year in a half he spent at the wic as an S&S member either imbeded it self so firmly into the core of who he was that even in his twilight years he refused to forget what the order ment to him or that S&S networked for years after they graduated and his steadfastness was a result of years of comitment. I personealy belive the latter. (for the record I never presured him too hard to talk about S&S. We became friends and he made it clear the subject was off limits)
Maybe one day a member will post the missing pice of thier history before it is lost to the past forever. I can only hope that, that hororble group is never forgoten and thire pice of norwich history wich I consider to be at the heart and soul of an instituion I love will never be lost. To be frank, as thing stand now being "Faithful to the past" may mean forgeting it all togeather...I hope that never happenes.
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Post by 87 on Mar 3, 2004 13:00:15 GMT -5
Skull and Swords wasn't always a horrible organization. When I was a cadet it was what most of us wanted to be. They should be given credit for about 180 years of good work on behalf of cadets who found themselves in trouble. A couple of immature members in recent years seem to have destroyed that good reputation. I would have put membership in Skull and Swords on par with earning my pistols as an MP.
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Post by 99Focks on Mar 5, 2004 16:14:25 GMT -5
One thing I remember about the tunnels is my senior year, the freshmen from one of the companies got up early and opened the manhole covers on the UP and hid there until formation. Then they jumped out. Supposedly the manhole covers are just heat duct tunnels from the power plant behind gerard to the other buildings. I never checked it out.
However, there are some doors on the 1st or 2nd floor of gerard that were involved rooms.
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Post by NUCC98 on Mar 8, 2004 9:04:42 GMT -5
Heh...my rook buddy was one of the reasons S&S got the boot. Alcohol + Cadets = Disaster, as many of us know by now. That being said, S&S until that point were like Knights of The Round Table. They really were the good guys, for the most part. The thing any current students need to realise is that after you leave the Wick after graduation, secret societies don't mean a thing. All they become after that are stories we all tell at Alumni Weekend like "Yeah, remember when S&S beat down a Night Rider for talking trash about them?". Anyway, I'm pretty sure I was closely watched my Sr. year by them, along with several of my friends, for taking interest in reviving the Alpha Chapter of Theta Chi....DOH!
-Col.
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Post by XXX on Mar 10, 2004 11:54:06 GMT -5
Actually Skull and Swords Alum meet in Boston at resturant in the city.
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Post by NUCC98 on Mar 11, 2004 8:55:53 GMT -5
Right.....but if you're not S&S, then there's no impact on you once you leave the Wick...
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Post by NUCC00 on Mar 18, 2004 15:25:45 GMT -5
NUCC98 can you fill us in on the details of what happened? and how the corps reacted to the fall out? and what is the Alpha Chapter of Theta Chi....DOH! and why would S&S watch you for that?
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Post by NUCC98 on Mar 19, 2004 14:28:29 GMT -5
OK, my Junior year, 96-97, there was a kid who was a Nightrider out at the pub, I think. He was talking trash about S&S. Obviously, these S&S guys weren't going to let an "outside" defame their sacred right. Right? Of course....so the beating ensued. But, the Nightrider was smart. Rather than going to the administration to "handle things within the school", he went straight to the police...50 bonus points for him!!! Moral? Don't mess with those CJ majors! Hahaha!!! Seriously, though, this launched all sorts of investigations and ended with S&S' charter being pulled, along with several ranks. Surprisingly enough (sarcasm alert!!!), the Corps got along just fine after that without them. I think the worse part is that no one would shut up about it. Rumors, gossip...you know how it is.
Now for part 2...."DOH!!!" is an expression used my Homer Simpson, and is in no way affiliated with Norwich, as much as it needed to be sometimes it seemed! Anyway, Theti Chi was a frat started up at Norwich. Their pledge book is, essentially, our Rook Book. Technically, anyone recognized in the Corps is in the Alpha Chapter (the very first) of Theta Chi. Problem is that when Norwich killed the frats, the Alpha chapter died too. I'm not sure if it was anything more than S&S (who were illegal at the time of my Sr. year) not wanting competition from a Frat that may have spun off the Nightriders, or what...but I found out about a year after graduating that myself and some of my friends were watched very close by those guys...just do a Google search for "Theta Chi" and you'll find everything you ever wanted to know about it!
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Post by Murph148 on Apr 30, 2004 11:00:20 GMT -5
Nucc98 is right. Secret societies including S&S, were, and still are, honorable orgnizations with mission statements of preserving the honor of the school. Some immature members in the past, however, have given the organizations a bad name. Remember, if you were a member of a secret society, would you voice it out loud? Smart members would not be so foolish. They have existed for many years and some of them still exist today.
Norwich is a rumor mill, so don't believe eveything you hear. On the other hand, some of the rumors and things are true. My advice to cadets...do your homework and don't believe anything you hear unless you can prove it to be true yourself. The answers are available...do your research and talk to the RIGHT PEOPLE. Just don't be stupid. Jackman is always on a witch hunt to keep the school out of the papers and avoid bad press.
One more thing. Jackman tells you that secret societies are a thing of the past because they want you to believe it. Would you believe everything the administration tells you? This great institution is ours, not theirs.
We have eyes of our own.
-GTE-
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Post by private2004 on Sept 21, 2004 21:55:02 GMT -5
Lots of stuff has been posted, since I last looked! Thanks to all who are helping.
I think it is important to not let things like this just fade away like Jackman wants it too.
Sadly, I have no evidence that the Skulls and Swords exits still. I have access to many people and places and Jackman did a pretty good job at killing this whole thing. Alumni weekend has just passed and I heard nothing on the subject.....very strange.....
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Post by NURider on Feb 27, 2005 10:00:46 GMT -5
i know about the room. that the skull and swords guys used. it is in the chapel.
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Post by dberube on Mar 14, 2005 23:20:32 GMT -5
It has been quiet here, enlighten us as to what the room looks like if we can't be told where it is. It isn't polite to hint at a secret and not tell.
If that does not work to bait a conversation, how about somebody tell me about the "Them" society. I was told the society has been around forever, but I know forever began in late '98 because I was there in early '98 and never heard of them.
Enlighten me.
-Berube
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Post by dunny01 on Mar 20, 2005 15:46:56 GMT -5
You want to know about "THEM" the society? I suppose you want to know about their sister chapter "THOSE" as well? Why not ask one of THEM or THOSE? It is my understanding that they were public societies with nothing to hide or were they ?  |
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Post by WR on Jun 15, 2005 19:47:47 GMT -5
The last class known class of Skull and Swords was 1999. The organization had been underground for 2 years since the charter was revoked in 1997. The members of Skull and Swords for 1999 were dismissed from the university, in September 1999 (beginning of their senior year), after they were discovered to have kept the organization going after it was "officially" disbanded by the university. After an appeal to the president, the 8 students were reinstated and allowed to finish their senior year, but could only do so on CMC for the entire year. Ross Rapach (Cadet Colonel of the Corps) and Ben Finkelstein (XO of the Corps) both lost their commissions to the USMC from this incident. The members of the class of 1999 are the only ones who know whether or not the society goes on. The members of that class were:
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